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Scott Young: Learning for Real Life (#58)

Scott Young

My guest in this conversation is Scott Young. Since 2006, Scott has deeply explored the question of how one can learn best. In 2019, Scott published Ultralearning, a Wall Street Journal bestseller on how to rapidly learn difficult skills and the principles behind effective, rapid learning.

In addition to his writing, Scott has completed two very well known public learning experiments

  1. The MIT challenge, where he attempted to learn all of MIT’s four year computer science curriculum in less than one year with no classes
  2. The year Without English, where he attempted to learn four languages in a year and speak no English

In this conversation, we cover a lot of ground about how to practically acquire new skills and learn amidst the messiness of real life. Whether you’re a new parent trying to carve out time for that side project, or you’re a swamped company leader who needs to learn something new to take your team to the next level, or maybe you wish you’d finally learn that language—then this episode is going to help you.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Please enjoy learning with Scott Young.

Enjoy!

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A new chapter = a really long walk + new ideas

I want to mark a big milestone. Last month, I wrapped up ~5 terrific creative years with Applied Invention, where I was a group product lead for several groundbreaking new products in sustainability. What a ride! We built some terrific things that are making the world a better place, and I’m very proud of the work we did together. I can’t wait to see what the team creates next.

Going forward, I’ll be doubling down on the direction I’ve been exploring through my Make Things That Matter podcast and writing over the last few years: high-performance flourishing. I’ll focus on building products and enabling organizations to maximize people’s creative and cognitive performance, and thrive while they do so.

Domain-wise, I’ll be exploring learning and growth, creative tooling, and maximizing the intersection of wellness and performance within the workplace. Functionally, I’ll continue working to shape great products and influence organizations through product and organizational design, advising startups, and learning out loud via podcasting, writing, and speaking. 

So, what’s next?

A few of you have asked what I plan to do next. First, I’m taking a break until mid-summer to focus on learning and exploring. Traveling, reflecting, connecting with friends old and new, reading, and learning in some areas I want to go deeper on. I’ve been lucky to have so many rich experiences in the last few years and I want to take time to properly reflect on it all before I push the gas pedal again. 

To start, I’ll be walking ~900km across Spain along El Camino de Santiago beginning this weekend. It’ll take me 5-6 weeks to do the whole thing. I’ll be mostly quiet / offline during this time, although a few scheduled podcast episodes will go out.

El Camino

When I return in July, I’m looking forward to reconnecting with many of you! I want to hear what you’re working on and look at the world fresh through an innovator’s lens as I experiment with possible ventures and product ideas. 

My focus is on how to unleash teams for maximum creative potential and performance. If you are focused on this space as a product person, company leader, Chief People Officer, L&D strategist, or similar, and are looking to share pain points or ideate solutions, please reach out. You can find me on Twitter, LinkedIn, or through this website, and my emails remain the same.

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Rob Fitzpatrick: Shaping an Entrepreneurial Career (#57)

Rob Fitzpatrick

My guest in this conversation is Rob Fitzpatrick. Rob is the author of several wonderful books, all designed to help you navigate the messy waters of bringing your ideas into the world.

He’s best known for his 2013 book, The Mom Test, which is now my go-to book on how to approach talking to people to see if your idea is actually worth building. He is currently focused on supporting indie non-fiction authors with software and a thriving authors community.

In this conversation, we talk about the realities of how to test your ideas, how to discern if an idea is a good fit for you (and not just for the market), and how to discern what’s most important to you and not just what idea you choose, but how you choose to build it.

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Please enjoy learning with Rob Fitzpatrick.

Enjoy!

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Ash Maurya: The Innovator’s Gift (#56)

Ash Maurya

Ash Maurya has been shaping the conversation of all things lean startup and product development for over a decade now. He’s the bestselling author of Running Lean and Scaling Lean, and the creator of the lean canvas, one of the most widely-used tools to visualize how the pieces of a new business fit together.

In this conversation, we go deep on where and how you can find problems worth solving—challenges worth your time. We explore the sequence of hidden milestones on the way to product-market fit, how to identify your true early adopters, and how to know what action to take when. We also cover foundational territory on jobs to be done (JTBD), which is one of my favorite frameworks to better understand what people actually need.

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How does continuous discovery come together for a new product? (#55)

Most product managers are working on existing products that already have found some level of traction.

Hopefully they’re practicing well-established continuous discovery (CD) techniques such as those popularized by folks such as Teresa Torres and Marty Cagan.

The first time you try, it can be confusing to translate these CD practices to a new product that doesn’t exist or hasn’t found traction yet.

I saw a question along these lines a few days ago, which I’ll paraphrase as:

Incremental continuous discovery makes total sense for established products. But how do you map the opportunity space and do continuous discovery for a new product that’s still being conceptualized?

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I ran into this question last year when I coached a team to apply continuous discovery approaches for a totally new product.

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David Kadavy: Creative self-actualization (#54)

David Kadavy

I am thrilled to start the new year in this conversation with David Kadavy, an author and thinker who has profoundly shaped my thinking as a creative person over the last ten years since his first book, Design for Hackers, taught me the fundamentals of graphic design when I was a wet behind the ears computer programmer.

David is a prolific author, podcaster, self-publishing coach and speaker who has published 7 books and 281 podcast episodes so far.

This conversation covers a ton of ground, sharing his journey from the midwest to Silicon Valley to Latin America, across four books, multiple startups, and speaking around the world. David’s commitment to following his curiosity inspires me and he shares real wisdom in here about thinking about the impact you want to create with your work and navigating the existential challenges of a creative life.

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Turning over a tough year (#53)

The end of the year is typically a quiet time where we turn inwards. I wanted to briefly drop in, wish you well, and share a simple approach to closing out the year.

We’ve made it though another unprecedented year of change. I saw a funny tweet about this the other day that hit home – it said something like, I’m definitely ready for some good ole “precedented times.” Enough of this unprecedented stuff!

That resonates with me for sure. I don’t know about you but I’m 110% ready to close the books on this year. For me, 2021 was a much harder year than 2020. I’ve heard that from many friends also. While a year of great challenge, it was also a year of incredible growth. This one had alllll the feels: joy, love, heartbreak, curiosity, sadness, confusion, hope. And so much more.

But as hard as this year and the pandemic have been, I still have a deep faith that humanity will metabolize this into a net-positive experience. Wherever this finds you, I wish you a healing and rejuvenating holiday season and transition between years.

I used to think that doing an end of year review was too formal or stodgy, or that it was a formality. After all, the end of year—it’s an arbitrary deadline! It’s not even a real thing, except by virtue of societal agreement. So I didn’t start doing an annual review until a few years ago, but since then I’ve found it to be an amazing practice. I first did one at the end of 2015 and it was a holy shit kind of moment, where I got smacked in the face with some truths about my life that I had avoided facing.

It’s an easy thing to get overwhelmed with—or feel like it’s not worth the effort. I totally get that, and almost skipped it this year myself. My energy levels have been slowly recovering over the last two months. So I ended up simplifying my process, which I’ll talk you through in a second to provide some simple scaffolding.

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Whether you do this, or just take some quiet time for yourself, my wish for each of us is that we complete and release whatever we need to in order to step into 2022 from a posture of possibility. At a minimum I hope you take some quiet time to nourish your soul and reflect.

One book that I highly recommend for this period of time is called “Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals.” I just read it, and immediately started reading it a second time. It’s that good.

Alright, let me talk you through this simple approach to close out the year, and then let’s all get on with it.

It’s a simple 3-step process.

  • Complete: Remember + review
  • Center: Reflect + recharge
  • Create: refresh your intention going

The part that I’m going to be prescriptive about is the “Complete” step, which can be done in an hour or two tops. It’s going through a set of questions and reviewing what happened in your life over the last year. For centering and creating—or recharge, reflect, envisioning, whatever words you want to use—there are a million ways to do it. If you don’t have an approach that works for you, I’d recommend some quiet time in nature, some journaling, and setting up a long conversation with an inspiring friend to brainstorm together about what you want to bring forward next year.

Let’s get into it.

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How to get more creative flow in your work day (#52)

As the end of the year approaches, many of us are thinking about what changes we want to make. How we want to approach life and work differently going forward.

For better and worse, over the last decade I’ve probably obsessed more than most about workflow, productivity, and flow.

I recently had a conversation with a friend where we were talking about flow, creativity, and how to up our individual creative performance. We both work in leadership roles with technology teams, so we end up spending a lot of time changing contexts, zooming in/out, collaborating with others, while still trying to find a way to do our own deep work. A very common challenge in modern knowledge work.

He asked me how I thought about flow and setting up my day to get more creative output, and it turned out to be useful so now I’m sharing that here. I get asked this a lot, so hopefully going forward I can just point people here when asked.

This is about generating more flow and top-quality creative output in your life.

At a high level, we’re going to talk about two things:

  1. What is flow, and why should we want more of it in our lives?
  2. How do we get more flow in our lives?

As we go through this, I’ll attempt to distinguish between the principles of flow that apply anywhere, and provide specific examples of how I have implemented these principles in my life so you have something to go off of.

Let’s get into it. We start with understanding flow itself.

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What is flow?

Flow is defined as an optimal state of consciousness, where you feel and perform at your best. This concept comes out of the world of positive psychology, and the godfather of flow is the late Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, may he rest in peace. He was a true gem and contributor to humanity.

If you’ve ever felt “in the zone,” and totally lost track of time during an activity, that’s flow.

There are four hallmarks of flow, and they are captured in the acronym STER:

  • Selflessness
  • Timelessness
  • Effortlessness
  • Richness (sensory)

Said another way, four big things happen in flow:

  1. Action and awareness merge — you become one with the moment
  2. Your sense of self and self-criticality goes away
  3. Your sense of time distorts — either speeds way up or slows way down
  4. Mental and physical performance skyrockets

If you’re curious about what’s happening in your brain in flow, there are two main things I’ll highlight.

First, your brain goes into a state called “transient hypofrontality.” This means that for awhile, parts of the prefrontal cortex (PFC) quiet down and self-criticality goes away.

Now, on a neurochemical level, flow is a crazy chemical cocktail of:

  1. dopamine
  2. serotonin
  3. anandamide
  4. norepinephrine
  5. endorphins
  6. and sometimes oxytocin, especially in group flow situations

That’s an ultra-addictive mix of the same neurochemicals released by the following drugs: cocaine, MDMA, LSD, marijuana, speed, and sex…

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Two years in: making things that matter (#51)

I hope this finds you happy, healthy, and thriving wherever you are! It’s been TWO YEARS now that this podcast has been alive in the world (first ep dropped Nov 5 2019). And it’s been almost four years since I first started thinking about the podcast idea after a New Year’s Day brainstorm around a friend’s kitchen table.

That blows my mind. It’s been a rewarding and challenging journey so far.

Looking back on the second year of the podcast, I want to talk about three things:

  1. Six lessons learned in year two
  2. Some of my favorite episodes in year two, and what most impacted me from them
  3. Show updates going forward

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Lessons from year two of the podcast

Lesson 1: Start then learn

I wish I’d started the podcast sooner. This is one that pretty much every creator I know says. It’s an easy thing to “know” cognitively, and much harder to face down in experience.

I’ve said this to many other people who are interested in doing a podcast, but now I’m reminding myself: you can always change it later. Your show is your creation. And until you have a big audience anyway, it’s not like you are really risking anything. I have a friend who is worried about iterating on his show that he just started. It’s like, who cares?

I spent almost two years thinking about and toying with the idea of the podcast before I ever put it live. In retrospect, I wish I’d done what every advisor said, which is what I’m saying now; start, then learn.

Gratitude to Sahil and The Minimalist Entrepreneur community for making this so central to our conversations.

Which leads me to my second big lesson…

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Bo Burlingham: Small Giants & the roots of great businesses (#50)

Bo Burlingham

My partner in this conversation is Bo Burlingham. Bo is an editor-at-large of Inc. magazine and the author of five books which have profoundly impacted the trajectory of values-led, intentional business around the world.

Bo’s work has been such a big inspiration to me and foundational to a lot of my thinking over the years, so it was such a privilege to sit down with him. I don’t know of anyone that has explored more deeply, through real-world examples, what it means to build a meaningful business.

Bo has given name and voice to multiple movements that continue to shape the world of business, such as open book management, transparent start-ups, and the idea of small giants—companies that live from the truth that greatness and bigness have nothing to do with each other.

This is a fascinating conversation for anyone interested in exploring what it takes to create a business that is both personally and externally meaningful. We discuss questions such as what does it actually mean for a company to be great? What makes a company meaningful? What is the foundation of a values-driven approach to business? What are the roots of business success and service? And, what makes for the kind of business that makes everything it touches better for the contact?

I saved this conversation for episode 50, because it felt appropriate to celebrate that milestone by talking with one of the people whose work has most shaped the way I see the world of business and what’s possible with companies as a force for good progress in the world.

Please enjoy sitting down with the sage, Bo Burlingham.

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